Tuesday , June 15 2021

"It's Us": Justin Hartley Interview for Season 3, Episode 12

Warning: This post contains spoilers for Tuesday This is us,

If you were caught unprepared by what happened at the end of this week This is us– said star Justin Hartley, as well as Kevin.

Since those who watched "Songbird Road: Part Two" know Kev's mission to help his new Uncle Nicky cope with post-traumatic stress disorder and alcoholism failed quite spectacularly. And when a suppressed Kevin himself went to Nikki's trailer to assess some repairs, he drank a lot of his uncle's alcohol, ending a period of sobriety that began when Kev was in the clinic last season.

"I knew what was going on, but I do not think Kevin did it, "says Hartley. "I do not think he ever expected this to happen. By the very end he had the impression that he was still controlling this thing.

Executive Producer / Co-Exhibitor Isaac Aptacker notes that the sudden end of Kevin's long emotional journey to understand the truth behind Jack's medal was "a real blow" to (former) Manny. "That's a low point, and he turned to what he was turning to go through what the bottle was.

In a frank conversation with TVLine Hartley explores how the "family schism" that has unfolded over the past few episodes seriously challenged Kevin's memories of Jack. "All this thing he thought of his father," he says, "is already turned to his ear."

Read while Hartley destroys the episode and offers his thoughts about Kev's immediate future.

TVLINE | What's going through your mind when you first heard that Kevin would drink a drink after so long?
One of the things I thought was if he made a phone call with Zoe, and she picked up the phone and they could talk about what happened, maybe even a minute. I went down that road, you know? It's a real thing, it's happening all the time. People become sober, then "fall from the wagon" and again soberly … This is a daily struggle for him. I hope this time will do it well. Hopefully it will not be that big and huge thing for him. But God, that's heartbreaking, is not it? Because I feel like he's gone far, and now, here we are again.

This is us Season 3 Episode 12TVLINE | How do you think this development could happen between Kevin and Zoe?
There are many things that go along with him, right? This idea that he is under the control of this thing and their relationship is based on this fact. And then he will understand that he is obviously not, at least not right now. He does not care for himself. Kevin, he has this great, great spirit. And he has this idea that he can solve a few problems. He's really good at fixing other people or helping others and is there in a time of need.

Just go through it: He goes out of rehabilitation and immediately begins to raise prospects for work and goes to the film premiere, which obviously goes very well. And then he meets a woman, falls in love with her and makes her move to his place – and we do not see him [Alcoholics Anonymous] meetings. We do not see it with a sponsor. We do not see him talking about alcohol. He does what he did before with his father, and it's so interesting how the patterns are repeated. He was the one who kept saying, "Listen, I do not have to cry all the time. My father is dead, a great job, is not it? This has happened a long time ago. I'm done. This is good. Keep going. "And then you realize that this is just his way of dealing with him – not to deal with him – and that's the same thing he does with his addiction, and he comes back to bite him. So yes, it is.

There is shame, there is humiliation, there is helplessness, there is a sense of failure. There is a feeling I've lied to these people, now I have to take the pieces. He'll probably go to some hiding place to try to make sure people do not see what's really up to, which is a sign. So everything will probably fall apart for him. I hope he does not, but he probably will.

TVLINE | The head is that when this happens to him you will get good things to play.
[[[[He laughs] Well yes. I know. What is an egoistic thing to say, but I absolutely, 100% agree with you.

TVLINE | You are delivering AA meetings. I would have mentioned that we have not seen him in something like this. You say it's not happening outside of the screen?
Yes … I thought, "Well, maybe they just do not write that. Maybe he goes to meetings and they just do not write it. But you know, our writers do not. It would be a comment. He would have known instead of going through the door and being like, "Oh yeah, I was meeting the producer" [Zoe] would say, "How was your meeting?" and he would say, "It was good," and then they would continue with their lives. [The writers] do not laugh anything, so I really believe it just does not go away. I do not have this as a fact, but here's how I play it that he's just, he neglects to take care of himself in the middle of caring for everyone else and to make sure that this new relationship, which he has to do well and to deal with Vietnam, to deal with Zoe and all her things and say I do not want to move and slow things down with her and then return it. I think he just neglects self-service, honestly.

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